M: Ricky, what’s going on? Fred told me just now that you’re going to leave us.
W: Yes. I really feel bad about it. But BMD came up with really a good offer.
M: Well, I didn’t know that you are looking for a new job.
W: Well , just between you and me. I think we have some real problems in this department. Don’t get me wrong. It has nothing to do with you, Frank. Everybody says that you’re an excellent manager.
M: Problems? What problems? Do we have time to talk about it?